Winder Wonderland DNA Project

Researching the genealogy of the Winder/Winders/Wynder/etc families.

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151	(Research):According to Bill Johns: This History of Cass County, IA, 1884, page 642-643, mentions a Samuel WINDER, d. 1870, Louisa Co, IA. He m. Ruth B. HIBBS, and his son, T.C. WINDER, was b. 1842, Freeport, Harrison Co, OH. The International Genealogical Index for Ohio lists a Elizabeth Jane WINDER, b. 9 Oct, 1832, Knox Co, OH, the d/o Samuel WINDER and Ruth B. HIBBS. According to Robert L. Winder (June 2000): ...Copy of marriage record filed in Guernsey County, OH received from Cathy Lanham... was filed 2 Mar 1831 in Guernsey County, OH. According to Robert L. Winder (Sep 2000) Samuel Winder, born 6 March 1808, probably in Fayette County, PA, who married Ruth B. Hibbs, daughter of Valentine and Margaret Lyons Hibbs, on 2 December 1830 in Guernsey County, Ohio. Ruth B. Hibbs was born in April 1810 in Loudon County, VA.	WINDER, Samuel L. (I1367)
152	(Research):According to Bill Taken, Jun 2014: Lucy's place of birth (1800) was consistently NY for 1850, 1860 and 1870. Her sister Sally (1801) showed PA in the1850 census. Brother (I believe) William (1793) is listed as NY in 1850 census. Brother (I believe) John (1786) is listed as PA in 1850 census. .. If these are "accurate", John Taylor may have moved back and forth between the states before he settled down. For census records we have: 1) Letitia 1880 - James PA Lucy PA " 1900 - " OH " PA 2) George 1880 - " PA " NY " 1900 - " PA " NY 3) Joshua 1880 - " IN " IN 4) John 1880 - " VA " PA " 1900 - " NY " KY Note that Lucy, Joshua and John were illiterate.	TAYLOR, Lucinda (I112)
153	(Research):According to Bill Wallace (Dec 1998): My great grandfather James Clinton Winder fought in the 53 IND Reg for the Union Army as did many of this brothers and one nephew. They were used to patrol and fight along the Ohio River below Louisville, KY. in the State of IN. ...I have found records in the 1900 Indiana census (soundex) that show an Annie V. and James F. Winders living together in New Amsterdam, IN. Annie gave her birthdate as June 1852, in Illinois. James Franklin's birthdate was February, 1882 in Indiana (which matches our family records) From: Sent: Monday, November 01, 1999 5:15 PM My mother most assuredly remembers an Uncle Dick, but never met her Uncle Bill. She remembers her father saying "Dick's" real name was Mark. Her Uncle Bill had rheumatism, and had difficulty walking (she remembers her father saying). My grandfather James Franklin had brought Bill a silver walking stick back from the Philippines. Her Uncle Dick had serious vision problems, something about from swimming in the Mississippi and there was something in the water. He did, however continue to write my mother. She remembers receiving letters well into the 1950s. She says his handwriting was very bad, probably from his vision difficulties. When her Uncle Dick passed away, my grandmother Mabel and Uncle Les (and possibly his wife) went to the funeral. [snip] First, most of my Uncles remember their father, James Franklin, saying the family came from Jamestown Virginia via Wales, possibly having arrived in Virginia around 1630. That's something that will take a lot of tracking down. I have found records in the 1900 Indiana census (soundex) that show an Annie V. and James F. Winders living (together) in New Amsterdam, IN. Annie gave her birthdate as June 1852, in Illinois. James Franklin's birthdate was February, 1882 in Indiana (which matches our family records), yet you say you have information that says she remarried in 1898. Confusing. Do you have any data to substantiate it? All I have at the moment is the census information I spoke of, and a lot of family lore to sift through. But it's hard to argue with census records where she still gave her name as Winders. Also, the James G. Winder I have found information on shows his wife's name was Ruth Tahoe. My grandfather James Franklin was one of James Clinton's sons who came to Illinois. He enlisted in the army in Louisville in January, 1902, and was transferred to Company G of the 17th Infantry Regiment in April 1902. (I have his Soldiers Handbook.) He served in the Philippines during the insurrection, and also (supposedly) saw service in China. His "tailgate" assignment was as part of the federal troops who patrolled San Francisco after the 1906 earthquake when martial law had been declared. On his discharge, he went to work for the C B & Q railroad in Kentucky, building the railroad bridge between Kentucky and Illinois. He was eventually transferred to Aurora, Illinois in the mid-teens. He meet my grandmother, Mabel Hughes, and they were married on January 17, 1920. I was born on their 32nd wedding anniversary in 1952. The had six children, one of whom died in infancy, who, incidentally was named Anna after her grandmother Anna V. at the insistence of my grandfather. He worked for the railroad the rest of his working life. He was a construction foreman. James Franklin passed away in April 1953 of cancer. He is buried in the Naperville Cemetery in Naperville, IL, which is where my grandmother's family had settled in the late 1850s, having come from Lebanon County, PA. I have a few questions for you: Do you have any scanned photos of James Clinton's grave? I would like to put one in the family history I am putting together. Is James Clinton's name on the memorial in Indianapolis? I have always been told it is. Was Annie a christianized Cherokee American native as I have been told? You say her maiden name was Davis. I might try to find something in the Dawes Rolls if we can nail some of these details down. I hope this helps you out, Bill. We need to continue to compare notes as we turn over rocks. Cordially, Mike Johnston According to Bill Wallace (Nov 1999): I have tried to get the winder/winders family in order for 20 yrs. Anna V. (Davis) Winder was born in IN probably Harrison Co. She married James Clinton in 1869 in Harrison Co. IN. Anna was born ca 1855. James died in 1896 and in 1898 Anna married Emanuel Plaiss in Harrison Co. and I lost track of her. James Clinton Winder is buried in a cemetary in New Amsterdam, Harrison Co. IN. I visited the grave and have pictures of it. His tombstone says he was in the 53 IND REG. during the civil war. One of his sons Marcus Lafayette Winders (nicked name Dick) was my grandfather and he lived around Tolu, Fords Ferry and Smithland, KY in Crittenden and Livingston Co. along the Ohio River. I believe the Bill Winders your [Mike Johnton's] mother is referring to was a brother to Dick and son of James C. and was a barber in Louisville, KY. I am not totally sure exactly what he did for a living. They started adding the s to Winder around the time my grandfather was borned. The Winder Family always said they were from Bucks Co. PA. in fact James Clinton and another child listed place of birth as PA. I cannot track them back there, I have not connected one generation from this area to the Winder's in PA. I think some of the Winders migrated to IL from IN but I did not try to connect them. There was another group of Winder's in Livingston-Crittenden Co. they did not connect to my PA bunch. According to Mike Johnston (June 2000): Please bear in mind that Bill Wallace has yet to PROVE the connection with anyone named Marsham Winder, or his wife, Rebecca. The information that can be CONFIRMED goes back to James G. Winder.	WINDER, James Clinton (I6100)
154	(Research):According to Deven Lewis (May 2013): «b»David Winders«/b» (unknown) At the time the Marsham estate was distributed, we know heir John Winder had a son, David, but he would not have received a full 1/8«sup»th«/sup» share, thus it must be a different David. The Davids we know of from our research are James and Elizabeth Grable Winder's son, David, born 1780-1782, and their grandson, David (son of Daniel and Mary Kennedy Winder), who was born in 1820. From what we know of them, neither could be this David.	WINDERS, David (I23807)
155	(Research):According to Deven Lewis (May 2013): «b»Rebecca Winders«/b» (born c. 1816 in KY) Rebecca is believed to be the Rebecca Winders who married Frederick Ripperdan in Harrison County, IN on 21 Oct 1834. Rebecca and Frederick are enumerated in the 1840 census, Heath/Heth Township, Harrison County, IN, as "Ripuden". In the 1850 census, District 45, Harrison County, IN, Rebecca is reflected as Rebecca «u»B«/u». Winders, and children with she and Frederick are Sarah A, Mary C, Rebecca E and John H. In the 1860 census, the family is enumerated in Washington, Harrison County, IN, with Rebecca's birthplace appearing as "Kentucky". Rebecca's whereabouts are unclear after 1870; she may be the Rebecca Ripperdan, widowed in the 1880 census, living in Union, Perry County, Indiana. Note, Rebecca has been identified by some researchers as Marsham's wife, however, based on the 1830 census record for Marsham, he wasn't married. Also, the document naming the heirs to receive the 1/8«sup»th«/sup» shares does not provide any acknowledgement of Rebecca as his widow.	WINDERS, Rebecca B. (I6096)
156	(Research):according to magrobm, joined the circus, married a movie star, and settled in California.	WINDERS, Thomas Harrison (I23861)
157	(Research):According to Miriam Roberts: Young Daniel married Lois Jennie Atherton 8 Sep 1887. He learned the printer's trade with his father in Toronto and in 1887 started Winder Printing Co. in Detroit. We don't know his death date.	WINDER, Daniel Cory (I14804)
158	(Research):According to oral family history, Alexander Winders had a Native American wife and his son Andrew Jackson Winders, born in 1827 in Virginia, was 1/2 Native American. There was also a son, George, born in 1828. Alexander married Nancy Morrical in 1833 in Indiana and had additional childred with her. 1850 Census, next door to George Winders, age 22, b. VA, possibly his son	WINDERS, Alexander (I64)
159	(Research):According to Robert L. Winder (June 2000): Rebecca was a twin. Her twin sister died when only a few days old. Evidence: grave marker found in Pioneer Cemetery, Mt. VIctory, OH. Rebecca and her twin sister born before Elihu and Hopy were married. No record of death; probably moved to La Plata, Missouri. (Or Kirksville, MO?). Father in affidavit dated 4 Jun 1898 did not list her as a living child.	WINDER, Rebecca (I5718)
160	(Research):According to Robert L. Winder (Sep 2000): Samuel Charles Winder, born 21 July 1840, married Cora Zimmer on 18 March 1872, and who died in 1898. It appears that he was known in later days as Charles Winder. A Charles Winder died in Richmond, Indiana on 23 May 1898, and Cora (Mrs. Charles) Winder died in Richmond in July 1906. National Archives records list a Charles Winder who served in Company I of the 3rd Indiana Cavalry during the Civil War. He made application for a pension 22 July 1891 from Indiana, and his widow, Cora E. Winder, applied for (from Indiana) and received a pension under certificate #428144. Cora Zimmer was the daughter of Christian Zimmer and Ellen Hartley Zimmer. According to John H Winder (Apr 2014): He went by both Samuel C. Winder and S. Charles Winder, and his Civil War records are under the name Charles Winder. (When his wife Cora applied for widow's pension in 1898 after he died--not 1891 as my father said in the note that is on Wonderland--she gave his name as "Charles Winder" and gave his service as having been with Company I of the 3rd Ind Vol Cav). There are two different Civil War draft registration records for Samuel C. Winder in 1863 (both listing him as a carpenter)--one notes that he is already serving in Co I, 3rd Cav, while the second also says that, and notes additionally that he is a 'paroled prisoner'. That matches up with info compiled by the Indiana state digital archives project, that lists Charles Winder, who enrolled in Knightstown, Indiana has having served as a sergeant in Co I, 3rd Cav, captured near Nashville, Tennessee in June 1862, never exchanged, returned to unit Apr 1864, never mustered out, has no discharge, subsequently given a dishonorable discharge on April 15, 1865. He's listed as a carpenter, residing with Richard Binns in Wayne Twp, Wayne County in a directory ("Directory and Soldiers' Registry of Wayne County, Indiana") that was published in 1865. No record that I could find in the 1870 census, then he married Cora Zimmer on 13 March 1872 in Wayne County.	WINDER, Samuel Charles (I203)
161	(Research):According to Sharon Martini: Then regarding Mary and Margaret Millheim: Mary "Ada" Millheim was married to Henry Winders. I believe... and it makes sense that Henry Winders was actually the Hurley Winders b. June 1887, son of William H. Winders and Alice Bacon. Sometimes these census enumerators wrote down the wackiest stuff. I don't know what the H. stands for as the middle initial. One thing I did notice is that this family has become known as Winders (plural) over the years, but they're definitely from the Warren>John>John>William H. Winder line. The whole proximity of the Winder and Millheim families in the same area makes perfect sense that they would be the same people.	WINDERS, Henry (I19434)
162	(Research):According to SS Death Index: Last address: 64105 Kansas City, Jackson County, Missouri SS#: 500-07-7849 Issued: Missouri According to Bill Wallace (2/23/2001): Dewey married a woman from Eaglesville, MO and moved there in the 1920's. He supposedly had two boys. He didn't have much contact with the Winders after he left Y. George Dukie, the other son died in 1968 and is buried near Smithland, KY in Robertson Cem.	WINDERS, Admiral Dewey (I18635)
163	(Research):According to Winders of America: In the [estate] inventory filed at Trenton, dated May 21, 1735, are mentioned "Two Great Bibles and three small ones by the concent of all ye Children and ye Widdow divided amonst them." Where did those Bibles go? Also according to Winders of America, in regards the fact that his estate paid 1 pound for a funeral sermon: In the latter fact we have proof that he was not a member of the Society of Friends... The compiler does not agree this constitutes proof. From The Bonner-Smith Circle by Ruth E. Bonner: Settled in Amwell Twp., Hunterdon Co., N.J.; was a proprietor of West Jersey; lived where Hopewell now is; in 1730 bought 600-A between Newtown and Yardley; crossed the Atlantic several times because of large interests in England; starting on a final trip he drowned from a small boat in the Delaware. In settling his estate, "paid for taking deceased body out of the water, he having been drowned, 2 (pounds), the Coroner"; 1746 "Acct. of Rebecca Collins, late Winder." From Davis, History of Bucks County, Vol iii, p 639: "Thomas Winder came from England, settled in Hunterdon County New Jersey in 1705. He was in New Jersey in 1703 and was one of the purchasers of Maidenhead and Hopewell in Jersey, soon after the consumation of the purchase he returned to London, and was married at St. Margarets Westminster 6th mo ... to Sarah Bull (see following note) and returned to Hunterdon County Jersey where he became a large land owner. In 1721 he purchased a six hundred acre tract of land at or near Newtown, Bucks County [PA] of James Walley. "The 341 acres he purchased in Makefield Twp., in 1727 decended to his son John Winder. "Thomas and Sarah Winder had four children -- John, born 1707, Thomas who settled at Annwell N. Jersy; James who removed to Maryland; and Jane Winder who married John Slack of Lower Makefield, Bucks Co., where many of their descendants are still living..." In the Pennsylvania Historical Library is a copy of Winders of America with an amendment pasted in the back. The amendment states that the "proof" of marriage between Thomas Winder and Sarah Bull had been forged in order to claim a reward offered by the author, R. Winder Johnson. In the same book was pasted a newspaper article from the Philadelphia Enquirer, 27 Dec 1910: BANKER CRUSHED BY BIG ANIMAL AMBULANCE R. Winder Johnson Run Down in Chestnut Street by Animal Vehicle. According to researcher Robert L. Winder (manuscript enclosed as part of personal communication, November 1997): In April 1986 a personal examination of the St. Margaret's (Westminster) Parish Register found the entry recording the marriage of Thomas WINHER and Sara Bull on 5 Jun 1704. There has been some controversy in the past over this record, with claims made that the "original" entry showed the groom as Thomas WRENHAM, with a later emendation correcting the name to Thomas Winder. The record examined in the Muniments Room of Westminster Abbey by the compiler in 1986 showed no erasures, write-overs, or emendations whatsoever. Quite likely the copy at the Abbey is the Bishop's transcript, and not the original register... At this point, however, it must be stated that the compiler has found in all of England, as yet, no other record that can be identified to this Thomas Winder who married Sara Bull at St. Margaret's Westminster on 5 June 1704...A search of the baptismal records for St. Margaret's, Westminster Parish Register for the years 1704 through 1710 found no baptisms of children of Thomas Winder or Winher or Ninher and wife Sara... Thomas seems to have acieved some prosperity, as indicated by the inventory of his estate filed in 1734 (New Jersey Archives Vol. XXX, page 538). This inventory included "a canoe, new rifle barreled gun, old ditto, large fowling piece, new small gun set off with brass, old gun and pistol, old sword, two great Bibles and three small ones, negro Ben, valued at six pounds, negro Toby valued at 30 pounds, wheat sold to Benjamin Pidcock", as well as 552 acres of land in Lower Makefield Township in Bucks County, PA. THE LAMBERTVILLE BEACON [NJ], May 11, 1933 He (Winder) owned much land in Bucks Co., Penna, as well as a tract in old Amwell a few miles east of Lambertville, ,N.J. consisting of 320 acres which was conveyed to him on the 7th and 8th days of ___, 1710, by John Williamson. The title to this land as well as much other land of these West Jersey tracts was disputed by Colonel Cox, and many of these owners signed an agreement to cooperate in trying the title to their land. Thomas Winder, with many others, signed this April 23, 1731 (page 11, Hales History, Pennington Church). He was a Commissioner of Highway, Old Amwell, N.J. 1723. (Somerset and Hunterdon History page 343 and 346). Also see (Winders of America, Lippincot Co., Phila, 1902). Thomas Winder died intestate. This land went to John Winder, who conveyed it to Peter Phillips, Nov. 26, 1747, and Peter conveyed a part of it to John and Sarah (Rose) Phillips and they to Jacob Holcombe, 112 acres, June 25, 1794. (Old parchments in possession of J. Howard Phillips). To: goandrsn@hsnp.com Sent: Thursday, June 28, 2001 5:14 PM Subject: Winder genealogy Hello! I found your entry on Ancestry.com indicating that the parents of Thomas Winder (1681-1734) who married Sarah Bull were John Winder and Bridget Bourow. Could you please tell me what documentation you have for this? Hopefully, Ann Winder [Received no answer to this query, alas!] Calendar of New Jersey Wills, Vol. II 1730-1750. Part II Page: 538 Name: Thomas Winder Date: 23 May 1734 Location: Hopewell, Hunterdon Co. Calendar of New Jersey Wills, Vol. II 1730-1750. Part II yeoman. Int. Adm'x, Rebecca Winder, widow. Joseph Peace, of Trenton, yeoman, surety. 1734, June 4. Inventory includes bonds of Samuel Baker, --- Parker, Thomas Newman, Frances Hague, Randle Idons, Immanuel Correl, Thomas Hoff, Abel Janney, Jr.; a canoe, new rifle barreled gun, old ditto, large fowling piece, new small gun sett off with brass, old gun and pistol, old sword, two great Bibles and three small ones, negro Ben (£6), Toby (£30), wheat sold Benjamin Pidcock. Debtors--Joseph Peace, John McGloughlin, Peter Likin, Jonathan Cooper, Thomas Hough, Henry Slackt, Joseph Price, Joseph Higbey. Due from John Windor for wheat pr Peter Windor. 23 sheep in Pennsylvania. Made by Joseph Kirkbride, Andrew Smith, John Burroughs. 1746, March 10. Account of Rebecca Collins, late Rebecca Winder, administratrix. Mentions John Parker, William Yard, Richard Arnels (or Amels), Samuel Parker, Thomas Robinson, Richard Skirm, Eliakim Anderson, Thomas Palmer, "Flour" Greenland, James Neilson, Bennet Bard, Samuel Biles, Rut Johnson, Thomas Hamlin, Jeremiah Foster, John Andrewson, Sarah Dagworthy (for Theo. Severns), John Wills, Benjamin Canby, Mary Davis, Manuele Coryele, Ezekiel Clements, Timothy Smith, John and Thomas Winder (sons of deceased), James, Jane and Elizabeth Winder (other children of deceased), William Snowden, Timothy Smith, Joseph Kirkbride, John Burrows, Andrew Smith, Sarah Davis. Paid for taking deceased body out of the water, he having been drowned, £2; the Coroner; copy of a writing said to be a will made by deceased, but proved not to be such. Eleanor Winder, youngest child of deceased. Extracted from DOCUMENTS RELATING TO THE COLONIAL HISTORY OF THE STATE OF NEW JERSEY, VOLUME XXX, CALENDAR OF NEW JERSEY WILLS, VOLUME II, 1730-1750; Paterson NJ, 1918 ( Libers 1, 2, etc. are of West Jersey Wills. Those as Libers A, B, etc., are of East Jersey Wills) 1734, May 23. Winder, Thomas, of Hopewell, Hunterdon Co., yeoman. Int. Adm'x, Rebecca Winder, widow. Joseph Peace, of Trenton, yeoman, surety. 1734, June 4. Inventory includes bonds of Samuel Baker, ------------ Parker, Thomas Newman, Frances Hague, Randle Idons, Immanuel Correl, Thoms Hoff, Abel Janney, Jr.; a canoe, new rifle barreled gun, old ditto, large fowling piece, new small sett off with brass, old gun and pistol, old sword, two great Bibles and three small ones, negro Ben [page 539] (£6), Toby (£30), wheat sold Benjamin Pidcock. Debtors - Joseph Peace, John McGloughlin, Peter Likin, Jonathan Cooper, Thomas Hough, Henry Slackt, Joseph Price, Joseph Higbey. Due from John Windor for wheat pr Peter Windor. 23 sheep in Pennsylvania. Made by Joseph Kirkbride, Andrew Smith, John Burroughs. 1746, March 10. Account of Rebecca Collins, late Rebecca Winder, administratrix. Mentions John Parker, William Yard, Richard Arnels (or Amels), Samuel Parker, Thomas Robinson, Richard Skirm, Eliakim Bard, Samuel Biles, Rut Johnson, Thomas Hamlin, Jeremiah Foster, John Andrewson, Sarah Dagworthy (for Theo. Severns), John Wills, Benjamin Canby, Mary Davis, Manuele Coryele, Ezekiel Clements, Timothy Smith, Joseph Kirkbride, John Burrows, Andrew Smith, Sarah Davis. Paid for taking deceased body out of the water, he having been drowned, £2; the Coroner; copy of a writing said to be a will made by deceased, but proved not to be such. Eleanor Winder, youngest child of deceased. Hunterdon Wills, 107 J. 'Enlightenment' generation in Anglo-American history, born 1674-1700. Thomas and Sarah emigrated from London to America in 1705, although Thomas had been there previously on business. They lived in Mercer and Hunterdon counties in western New Jersey and had property across the Delaware River in Bucks County, Pennsylvania. They have a large number of descendants, especially in Pennsylvania, Maryland, and Ohio. «u»«i»Sarah and Thomas Winder lived among Quakers in the colonies«/u»«/i» and some of their descendants became members of the Society of Friends. But these Winders were Anglicans as evidenced by their marriage in St. Margaret's Church which was and is at the core of the Church of England. The Toleration Act of 1689 made life a little easier for Quakers and other Protestant dissenters who would not accept the official Anglican liturgy. But it is doubtful that the bishop would have sanctioned Quaker marriages at St. Margaret's. Thomas was involved in several successful commercial interests until he drowned in a small-boat accident on the Delaware River during a business trip. To his son John, Thomas left over 300 acres in Lower Makefield Township, Bucks County. For more on his will, see below. (Note that the name is spelled Winder, not Winders.)	WINDER, Thomas (I350)
164	(Research):Affidavit by James M Winders notes Chauncey White as grandfather of Mary Jane Winder.	WHITE, Chauncey (I8433)
165	(Research):Although his obituary gives his birthplace as Des Moines, Iowa, this would be impossible. Eastern Iowa first opened for settlement in 1842, after Frank was born. Des Moines was not settled until some time later. His daughter Lila's obituary correctly states he was born in Coshocton Co, OH, agreeing with the several census records. Frank's brother, John Henry, resided in Des Moines.	WINDER, Francis Nelson (I147)
166	(Research):Although we have found no paper documentation that Thomas is the son of James, the exact DNA match to another descendant of James and Lucinda and the fact that Thomas was found in the same location as Henderson in early Coshocton history, leads me to attach him to this family until disproven. According to Sharon Martini: There was/is a Dunkard community just outside of Warrensville, Eldred Twp., Lycoming Co., PA around this time, the mid 1800s. (Some of the descendants are still there). The Dunkard Church still exists and is a museum of sorts. There is a cemetery surrounding the church. There is also another cemetery about a mile due east of the church in a place known as Quaker Hill on the Northway Road extension. According to Mary Launder (Jan 1991): A cousin in Des Moines seems to have been told there were Winder relatives in Pennsylvania. Great grandfather Winder lived near Steubenville, OH. Thomas? or his father? I don't have down who said it. A sister remembers Grandma Elizabeth Ellen saying the family came from Alsace-Lorraine - that area that was shuttled back and forth between France and Germany several times. Gma E.E. told us she knew only German until she started to school. Perhaps Thomas himself was the immigrant? Have copy of a letter from Cousin Hugh to his d. which says M.D., "Uncle Doc" we called him, was born at Ottumwa, Iowa the last of 13 children. Date: Sat, 6 Feb 1999 19:24:17 EST From: MDavis2765@aol.com [snip] [Melanie is a descendant of Elizabeth Ellen Winder] My grandmother's family history notes don't say too much about the Winders. She showed Thomas J. Winder. I noticed you show him as Thomas P. Winder. I've seen Eliza's name spelled as both Harman and Harmon. Grandma's notes say that Thomas was born or lived in the Steubenville, Ohio area. But that is just about all I know. I think our ancestor David Garber, Elizabeth Ellen Winder's husband, was a lay minister in the United Brethren (Dunkard) church. So the Winder family may have also been in the same church. [snip] Molly From Phyllis transcribing Jefferson Co, IA Tax List 1843: IGSW bK. #2291: Thomas Winder, personal property 700, tax 2.98 Having found that Francis Nelson Winder, Thomas' eldest son, named his first son Thomas J. Winder, I am assuming that the "J" is correct. Note: in 1852, wife Eliza is head of family, living next to father George Harman. Where was Thomas? He has reappeared by 1856.	WINDER, Thomas J. (I113)
167	(Research):An effort has been made to find the parents of Fanny Chambers by researching the Chambers in Rowan County, NC, during the pertinent time period, as well as those in Halifax County, VA and Person County, NC, but to date, no definitive connection has been found. Two predominant Chambers lines in Rowan are distantly connected to one another and certain names (such as Chambers "Nesbitt" Winders - see below) and records suggest a possible connection to Fanny. However, these two Chambers lines in Rowan were established there in the 1700s; Fanny and Ep did not arrive in Rowan until approximately 1807. The Chambers of Person County, NC, where Fanny and Ep were living prior to their move to Rowan County, were researched, but no connection has been found between the Person County, NC Chambers and those of Rowan County or to Fanny. Most intriguing is that a William Chambers II (b. before 1729 in Albermarle Co., VA, died 1801 in Person Co., NC) and Elizabeth Patton (b. about 1730, died 07 Jul 1818 in Person Co., NC) were married in Halifax Co., (Albermarle), VA c. 1750. The name "Patton" has been cited by descendants of John P. Winders as a possible middle name for John P. Winders (who is believed to be Fanny and Ep's son). John P. Winders' daughter Mary Winders Dent named a son William "Patton" Dent, and it is claimed by a Holobaugh descendant that, Naomi, who married John Park, named a son Henry "Patton" Park. Unfortunately, the Will of William Chambers II (married to Elizabeth Patton) does not name a Frances or Fanny among his daughters listed in the will. The following are rough notes from the research concerning the two Rowan County Chambers lines: I. Henry Chambers (1708-1796) aka Robert Henry Chambers Henry Chambers (1708-1796) is said to have come to Lancaster, Pennsylvania from Northern Ireland between 1732-1740. By 1754 he is in Rowan County, North Carolina. He was married to Jennett, last name may be Futhey, Eliot or Baird. Their children are listed in his will proved in Rowan County in 1796; also a codicil giving each of his grandson namesakes 10 shillings. Son Robert (1742-1814) married Jane Beatty, Lettice Boyd then Sarah Tripp. He was born in Lancaster County, Pennsylvania, lived in Rowan County until about 1785 when he went to Georgia. There are records in both Wilkes and Hancock Counties. He had sons Henry, James, Joseph Boyd, David, Robert Boyd, John and Maxwell. Most of this line went on into Alabama and some on west to Texas and finally Oregon. Son Henry (1750-1817) m 1) Agnes/Nancy McHenry; 2) Ann Chambers. This Henry was born in Lancaster County but lived in Iredell County, North Carolina the rest of his life. His sons: Henry (1776-1801), David, Joseph (1791-1848), Maxwell (1794-1816) and Ransom. This Joseph is the one that built Farmville Plantation in Rowan County. Son Arthur (1753-1819) m 1) Ruth Woods; 2) Mary Long. Born in Rowan County, died in Iredell. His sons: Samuel, Henry (1781-1866), Joseph, David, Maxwell (1791-1847 Indiana), James, Robert, and Arthur. Some stayed in North Carolina, others went to Alabama and Indiana. Son Joseph (1757-1784) m Mary Cambell. She later married William Nesbitt and John Fulton. He is buried in Fourth Creek Burial Grounds in Rowan County. Son: Maxwell Chambers of Davidson College fame. II. Maxwell Chambers (1742 - 1809) married to Magaret Magoune. I believe this is the Maxwell Chambers of the 1790 and 1800 Census for Rowan Source: Raleigh Minerva Written: 1809 Sept. 28, 1809 EXECUTOR'S NOTICE Notice is hereby given, that the Subscriber at the Aug. term of Rowan County Court, qualified as Executors to the Last Will and Testament on the estate of MAXWELL CHAMBERS, ESQ., deceased. Those indebted to the said estate are requested to make payment immediately; and those having claims against said estate, are notified to present them duty authenticated within the time prescribed by law or this notice will be plead in bar of their recovery. Sept. 11, 1809 JOSEPH CHAMBERS JOHN CHAMBERS, Executors File at: Thurs., July 27, 1809, Raleigh Minerva DIED, at Spring Hill, his seat near Salisbury, on the evening of the 9th instant of a short, but painful, disease, MAXWELL CHAMBERS, ESQ. in the 67th year of his age. He was a native of Pennsylvania and settled at Salisbury in the year 1764, where he married, and spent the remainder of his life, nearly 45 years, in all which time he supported an unsullied and dignified character. File at: http://files.usgwarchives.net/nc/rowan/obits/c/chambers1998gob.txt Son: William (died in 1809 per some trees; 1811 Estate record), leaving son Henry Augustus Chambers. Guardian appointed was a Stephen Ferand (?) Son: Maxwell (died in 1817) (the physician, referenced in brother Henry's will; predeceased Henry, which would explain why Maxwell was appointed but did not act as executor of Henry's will written in 1815.) Son: Henry (died 1816) was an attorney, m. unknown; m. Mary Adelaide Stokes in 1813. Son: Joseph (died c. 1818) In his estate file is a Bill of Complaint filed by George and Ann Miller, John and Margaret Newman, Otho Chambers and Samuel Chambers and Henry Augustus Chambers filed against Thomas Chambers, administrator of the estate of Joseph Chambers. States that at the time of Joseph's death, he left three brothers surviving, Thomas, Otho, Samuel and two sisters, Ann and Margaret. States that William had died, leaving son Henry Augustus Chambers, and that John had died leaving Matthew Troy Chambers, who had also died, and that John's widow, Panthea, had also died. Also states that brother Maxwell had died in the year 1817 and Henry had died in the year 1816. Son: Samuel - He was still surviving at the time of Joseph's death; no further information. Son: Edward (died c. 1816) Estate file cross references to Maxwell Chambers 1809, Joseph Chambers 1818. Contains Bond made by Otho Chambers. The Star, 26 Apr 1816, Died, Not long since at his seat Mount Ida in Rowan County, Edward Chambers, Esq. He was a useful member of society, benevolent and just. http://files.usgwarchives.net/nc/rowan/obits/c/chambers1142gob.txt Son: Thomas (died c. 1828) Estate file cross references to Maxwell Chambers 1809, Joseph Chambers 1818. 76-page file. Son: Otho, probably the Otho married to Caroline Harrington in 1821; Wed. April 22, 1829, North Carolina Journal; DIED, in Rowan County, on the 10th inst., after a lingering illness, MRS. CAROLINE CHAMBERS, wife of OTHO CHAMBERS, ESQ. Son: John (died c. 1818) m. to Panthea Troy. Probate cross references to the 1818 probate of Joseph Chambers, which cross references to the 1809 probate of Maxwell Chambers. Left son, Matthew Troy Chambers. Daughter: Margaret, married to John Newman per Joseph's estate. Daughter: Ann, married to George Miller per Joseph's estate. __________________________________________ * According to the History of Rowan County, Maxwell had married a daughter of George Magoune whose wife was Hester Long, supported by an 1880 article at ; that her name was "Margaret" Magoune came from this snippet at : (also note that one of their two daughters was named "Margaret"). Magoune before 9 Mar 1777 in Mecklenburg Co, NC.They had the following children: > 227MiiJoseph Magoune was born before 9 Mar 1777 in Mecklenburg Co, NC. > 228MiiiHugh Magoune was born before 9 Mar 1777 in Mecklenburg Co, NC. > 229FivMargaret Magoune > Margaret married Maxwell Chambers Sr. 230FvMary Magoune	CHAMBERS, Frances (I24726)
168	(Research):An Ellen Winder appears in «a href="https://familysearch.org/search/collection/results?count=20&query=%2Bgivenname%3AEllen~%20%2Bsurname%3AWinder~&collection_id=1596147" »Virginia, Freedmen's Bureau Field Office Records, 1865-1872«/a» on FamilySearch.org, indicating Ellen had been a slave before the Civil War. From Deven Winders Lewis, Apr 2014: I do think that James and Ellen were slaves. I've gone through some of the Freedman's Bureau documents at familysearch.org - there are tons of them for an Ellen Winder of Hampton, Elizabeth City, VA and a few for a James Winder. ... - she's identified as a nurse at Freedmen's Hospital at Hampton, Elizabeth City County, in others as a laundress... I came up with a few other names on one of Ellen's records - a Dolly Winder and a Thomas Winder, who appear to have been patients under Ellen's care at the Freedmen's Hospital there in Hampton, Elizabeth City.	Ellen (I19114)
169	(Research):Ann Elizabeth does not show up in any census from 1850 on, so she must have died early.	KNODLE, Ann Elizabeth (I25698)
170	(Research):Ann: Thomas of Shenandoah (brother of Bob's James Winders of Redstone, Fayette Co., PA) had a son, «u»Thomas Jr«/u». (older brother to my Clement) who married «u»Susannah Evans Oct. 26, 1800«/u» in Shenandoah(daughter of Elijah Evans and Susannah Evans - marriage record indicates Susannah was "Dau. of Susannah"; Elijah had died in 1799). Thomas Jr. drops off the Shenandoah tax rolls after 1802. In 1806-1807, I have the court case in Ohio County, VA (as Bob points out, part of Ohio County, VA became Belmont Co., OH in 1801) which involves Thomas Winders JUNIOR, so I think that was probably our Thomas, as I've never seen another one in the records using "Junior"; the court case is specifically Commonwealth of VA, Ohio County, and I'm nearly certain it was in Wheeling - same area as the later Samuel Winders case/death c. 1826. Anyway, we haven't been able to pinpoint Thomas Jr. after he left Shenandoah. Thought he might be the one in Bourbon Co., KY in 1810 census, but not sure - can't find anyone surrounding him there in Paris Township that was from Shenandoah; Maucks of Shenandoah did move into KY and are in "Stoner", which is now considered part of Paris, but I can't find a Mauck connection. It makes more sense for Thomas Jr. to have gone into Ohio, but he's off the radar if he did. I've always considered him as the most likely candidate to have been the father of Mary Winders Shrake, since no other Winders is in Shenandoah records of the right age, right time.	WINDER, Thomas (I8410)
171	(Research):as of 1910, has 2 children. Both parents b. TN	PRICE, Mary Ellen (I23852)
172	(Research):As to Daniel and Catherine, they came from Hagerstown, Washington, MD. Daniel was born abt. 1804 and married Catherine 6 Sep 1826, probably in Hagerstown. They had a number of children. He was a preacher and probably preached in central Indiana for awhile. We don't know his parentage nor do we have death dates for either of them. From: jayandelna@comcast.net Hello Ann, My wife and I are researching her father's family (Winder) and have strong data to connect them to Daniel winder and Catherine M. Knode. We have burial records for both of them (Spring Grove Cemetery, Hamilton Co., Cincinnati, OH) and many of their descendants. We can fill in most of that data. However, we are stuck on the parentage of Daniel. Family bible and burial record indicates he was born in MD to a John Winder (no mother's name indicated) The family bible indicates he was married to a Sara ? which would match to Sara H. Adams {b.1779-d. 4/28/1830}. We have found on your web page, a John Winder(s) {b.1779-d.2/22/1828} married to a Sara H. Adams Family bible also indicates next generation is John married to a Newcomer woman. These match to John Winder and Ann Newcomer, but we have not found an certain connection to them. This John {b. ca 1775-d. 11/1806} was married twice, to Ann Newcomer and Elizabeth Earhart. [snip] Elna and Jay Thompson From: Taylor mailto:taylorfamily1@cox.net Sent: Tuesday, September 14, 2004 10:50 PM I found this Daniel Winder, a stray from Maryland, from whom I decsend, in the 1850 census. You have listed that he has one son, Daniel Knode Winder. I found that he is just the first of ten children. Here is a list of the remaining children and their age at the time of the census. Catherine (age 19) Margaret C. (age 18) Elmira J. (age 16) William W. (age 13)--I am a descendant of this child. Amelia N. (age 11) John E. (age 8) Samuel J. (age 6) Sarah A. (age 4) Isadore (age 2) I hope I am submitting the information correctly. Also, as I was reading Jay and Elna's email that is posted on the Daniel Winder page I noticed that they had two sets of parents they were unsure of. I found his parentage listed with the LDS Family History Center in Mesa, AZ as John Winder(s) and Sarah H. Adams but did not find any documentation of resource. Thanks so much. Kena (Winder) Taylor 1850 Census lists Sarah A AFTER Isadore, even tho she was born before. Is she possibly just living with Daniel and Catherine?	WINDER, Daniel (I14807)
173	(Research):At age 16, living with his uncle James B. and grandmother Nancy.	WINDERS, Carl William (I23623)
174	(Research):At age of 45, living in Duplin Co, NC with his mother. Presume this guy never married.	WINDERS, James B. (I23245)
175	(Research):At death, father listed as John E T Winder, mother as Sarah A Winder	WINDER, Virginia (I25794)
176	(Research):At time of enlistment in 1941, had three years of college	WINDER, Augustus Milton (I22767)
177	(Research):Aunt of Henry Fernandez Winders	PADEN, Sidney (I25393)
178	(Research):«b»From ancestrycom «a href="http://trees.ancestry.com/tree/10990139/person/-542064632/story/1?pg=32817&pgpl=pid:"LAFAYETTE--A MAN KNOWN BUT NOONE CAN SPELL«/a» «/b»Note: The 1860 Western PA Census shows Winders to be a coal miner. It also shows he was living in Washington Twp, Fayette Co. The 1850 Census of PA show him to be a laborer living in Springfield Twp, Fayette Co. The 1880 Census of TX (Jack Co.) show him to be a stone mason. Father: Samuel WINDERS b: 7 AUG 1802 in KY Mother: Margaret BURNSIDE b: 1806 Marriage 1 Julianna WILLIAMS b: 1828 in PA Married: BEF 1852 in PA Children Hiram McCoy WINDERS b: 13 SEP 1853 in KS or PA Samuel M WINDERS b: 1850 in PA Robert WINDERS b: 1854 in PA Lafayette WINDERS b: 1858 in PA Margaret WINDERS b: 1858 in PA Henry WINDERS b: 1868 in KS Helline WINDERS b: 1872 in PA Census 1850, Springfield, Fayette, PA-- Martin Williams 72 1777 farmer 1000 PA, Abraham 27, Mary Jane Williams 20, Lafayette Winder 24 1825 labor PA, Juliana 22 1827 PA, Samuel M 8/12, next dooe to John Williams 37 labor PA (all were working same land), Elizabeth 39 PA, Jane 18, Mary 16, Julianna 14, Elizabeth 12, William 9, John 7, all born PA 1860 Census, Washington, Fayette, PA-- Lafayette Winders 35 1824 coal miner no value, Ann 32 1827, Robert 8, Hiram 6, Lafayette 4, Margaret 2, all born PA By 1900 Lafayette was dead, along with Julianna Williams Winders, along with Henry who has not been found again in a census. By 1900 three of his boys are living in Mineral Well, Palo Pinto Co, Texas All live in ED 124 but different pages D L Winders (Lafayette) June 1856 43 PA stonecutter, wife M E Dec 1855 44 TN, son W L Dec 1881 18 TX H M Winders (Hiram McCoy) Sep 1853 46 PA harness-maker, wife Mary Nov 1858 41 MO, son Harry Jan 1877 23 KS clerk, dau Mattie (Maggie) Nov 1879 22 KS, son Jasper Nov 1882 17 KS, son Thomas Feb 1887 13 KS, son Lafayette Apr 1899 11 KS, dau Myrtle Sep 1897 2 TX. R J Winders (Robert) Sep 1851 48 PA engineer stone mason, wife Lee? (looks like Lu) Mar 1860 39 MO For sure both Hiram McCoy Winders and Mary Belle Debruler Winders died between 1900-1910 with Mary going first. I have not found Lafayette from PA in the Census again. In 1920 Census Robert Winders 68 PA cook construction living with Arthur McQuery 24 TX labor construction appears in Precinct 1, Palo Pinto Co, TX.	WINDERS, Lafayette (I22303)
179	(Research):«b»From Bonnie Willacker, Jan 2015: Documentation from Jamaican Slave Registers 1813-1834 in the Parish of St. Ann, pages 1275-1276 record the number of slaves held by the estate of the deceased Thomas Winder as 37 males and 32 females and is signed by one of his executors George Fletcher Coward onSeptember 27, 1817. On December 9, 1817 Coward adds a side note on page 1275 that a male slave is added to the count as the slave was absent from the property on September 27. On September 25, 1817, page 1008, Issac Higgins, as executor of Eleanor Rose, deceased on the 28th day of June in the year of our Lord 1817, declares that the slaves in his possession are 2 males. The clue to find the parents of Thomas Winder came in his will when he declared 500 pounds to his brother George and 300 pounds each to his brother, John and Richard and the same to his sisters Agnes and Elizabeth. I surmise that the additional sum to George was because he over saw the care of Ann and Thomas, his children by Eleanor Rose, after they were sent to England for education and polishing for society. In the Marriage Contract of Ann Winder to Robert Moses, the month of January 1816 is noted as the death of Thomas Winder. In the contract he is also referred to as James Winder (Thomas Winder). This is not crossed out so it is not a mistake. In another part of the contract, mistaken words are crossed over. Letters containing more information about Thomas Winder are copied in the book Bits & Pieces" by Bonnie Willacker. «/b»	WINDER, Thomas James (I26474)
180	(Research):«b»From:«/b» «u»Melissa Winders «/u» «b»Sent:«/b» Friday, May 04, 2012 10:54 PM Hi, I've recently started working on my family tree on the Winders side and hit a brick wall with Henry H Winders (1813-), who I believe to be my ggggrandfather. (The line is Henry H Winders--Thomas Temple Winders--Joe Winders--C. G. Winders--Joseph Wiley Winders--me.) He was born in North Carolina, married Therina Temple in Shelby, NC 16 Jan 1840 (executed John T. Nelson, elder of the Methodist Episcopal church; security [J T?] Robinson); the 1850 census shows him living in Shelby with Therina, 4 children, and Daniel Corbit (laborer) and George Simmons (teacher). Some time between 1854--1856 (going by birth dates and places of children listed in 1860 census) moved to the Tupelo, Mississippi area (where he and succeeding generations stayed--my dad was born there). Therina having died in 1861, he married Emily Souter in 1863, and the 1870 census is the last record I have for him, so I assume he died between 1870 and 1880. I had initially thought that he was one of the Duplin, NC, Winderses, and he may be related to them, but the Henry Winders (son of James) living in Duplin in 1830 was still living there in 1840 and 50 when Henry H had moved to Shelby. I now believe my Henry is the Rowan, NC Henry Hampton Winders that William Holobaugh Rogers mentions on some of the Winder Wonderland DNA site discussion boards--brother of Elizabeth Ann Winders Holobaugh, Naomi Nonissa Winders Parks, and others. The marriage records for Elizabeth Ann and Naomi Nonissa show that they were both married in Shelby in 1841 by the same John T. Nelson as Henry H. I see also on the Winders Wonderland site that William Holobaugh Rogers has mentioned that the father of Henry H et al was named John Patton Winders. I have not been able to find anything else about who Henry H Winders's parents were or what relation they had to the Duplin Winderses or other Winderses of that general region. The only other early Winderses I have found in Rowan, NC censuses are Fanny Winders and "Widaw" Winders in 1820 and Fanny again in 1830. I would be very interested in any information available about these Winderses, and would be happy to provide any other information I have about the Mississippi Winderses that might be useful.	WINDERS, Henry Hampton (I24084)
181	(Research):«b»Hardin County, Kentucky Marriages 1793 to 1829" compiled by Mary Josephine Jones. «/b» «b»RECORD OF MARRIAGES IN HARDIN COUNTY, KENTUCKY For The Period of Years 1793-1815 Compiled by Annie Walker Burns (Bell) Seat Pleasant, Maryland. 1935«/b» «b»James G. Winder and Ruth Harris, November 22, 1817 father John Harris«/b» According to Historical and Biographical Notes of Crawford Co, Indiana James G. was a lineal descendant of "Gen. Winder of Revolutionary Fame". Ruth Cahoe's maternal grandfather was an aid to Gen. Washington during the revolution.	WINDER, James G. (I6097)
182	(Research):«b»North Carolina Marriage Bonds, 1741-1868 Groom:«/b»John C Winder «b» Bride:«/b»Octavia M Bryan «b» Bond Date:«/b»20 Dec 1856 «b» Bond #:«/b»000159374 «b» Level Info:«/b»North Carolina Marriage Bonds, 1741-1868 «b» ImageNum:«/b»001089 «b» County:«/b»Wake «b» Record #:«/b»03 575 «b» Bondsman:«/b»Ja J Iredell «b» Witness:«/b»Thomas J Utley	WINDER, John Cox (I1346)
183	(Research):Believed to have been one of possibly 6 siblings.	WINDER, Abraham (I25203)
184	(Research):believed to have been unmarried	WINDER, William M. (I14846)
185	(Research):Bill Wallace records a second marriage in 1898, but Michael Johnston finds Annie V. Winders in the 1900 IN census still calling herself Winders.	DAVIS, Anna Vivian (I6111)
186	(Research):Birth record gives father George, mother Mary	WINDER, George (I24299)
187	(Research):Birthstated at Big Woods, IL, which I could not find.	HUGHES, Mabel Irene (I13768)
188	(Research):BLM Accession # IDIDAA 048738, Doc # 1943, 19 Feb 1896, Homestead entry, 160 acres: 1) E1/2SW, sec 19, Twp 4-N, Range 38-E, Boise meridian, Jefferson Co, ID, 2) W1/2SE sec 19 twp 4-N, range 38-E, Boise meridian, Jefferson Co, ID.	WINDER, Thomas Harrison (I1407)
189	(Research):Both parent b Pennsylvania	WINDERS, Jacob (I23062)
190	(Research):Both parent b. England	WINDER, John Henry (I18772)
191	(Research):Both parent b. Ohio	WINDER, George (I19610)
192	(Research):Both parent b. Sweden	OLSON, Martha Beatrix (I25341)
193	(Research):Both parent b. Tennessee	WINTERS, Chancey (I23199)
194	(Research):both parents b. Alabama	WINDERS, Tennessee (I26419)
195	(Research):both parents b. Germany	WINDERS, Charles (I23015)
196	(Research):Both parents b. Germany	WINDER, John P (I25952)
197	(Research):Both parents b. Germany	WINDER, John (I25998)
198	(Research):both parents b. Illinois	WINDER, Joseph A. (I25592)
199	(Research):Both parents b. Ireland	WINDER, John (I18873)
200	(Research):both parents b. MS	WINDERS, Leban (I23181)