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John Iden WINDER[1, 2]

Male 1707 - 1770  (63 years)

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  • Name John Iden WINDER  [3
    Birth 1707  Amwell, Somerset, New Jersey, USA Find all individuals with events at this location  [4, 5
    • Location became Hunterdon county in 1714.
    Gender Male 
    AFN GXH7-13 
    Name John WINDER 
    Religion 5 Apr 1747  , Bucks, Pennsylvania, USA Find all individuals with events at this location 
    Quakers 
    • Falls Meeting, Bucks Co, PA, Applied for membership in Society of Friends.
    Will 6 Aug 1770  , Bucks, Pennsylvania, USA Find all individuals with events at this location  [6
    • Pennsylvania Probate Records, Bucks County, Wills 1760-1786 Vol 3-4, will of John Winder

      I, John Winder, of the township of Lower Makefield in the County of Bucks and Province of Pennsylvania Yeoman being Indisposed of Body, but sound of mind and memory, thanks be given to Almighty God, for the same, do make this my last Will and Testament in writing, First it is my will and desire that all my just debts and funeral expenses be fully paid by my Executrix and Executor hereafter named, and Secondly it is my will and desire that my dear and well beloved wife Rebeccah Winder shall have the Rents and Profits of the Plantation whereon I now live to convert to her use, during her natural life, I give and bequeath to my son Thomas Winder and to his heirs and assigns forever the Plantation whereon he now lives, to ?be? run of in mannor following Beginning at my Corner and John Slack's, thence Easterly to a line of Benjamin Canby's fence thence to Benjamin Canby's corner, thence Westerly into a Meadow fence of land that my son Thomas lived on, to where there is now a hog house built, and then to a line distance of Seven perches from this corner of this field, in the Woods at the Bottom of a hill, thence (1word not clear) Westerly taking in seven perches of Wood Land along his field to Saml Lombard/Lorbard's line thence along the said Jorbart/Sorbart/Lorbart's line to the first place of Beginning, let it be more or less, to him and his heirs and assigns forever, he my said son Thomas paying to my son Aaron the sum of Fifty Pounds with the interest from my Death for the same when he shall arrive to the age of Twenty One, I give and bequeath to my son James, and Moses, all my Plantation whereon I now live after my Wife's death, to be equally divided between them in quantity and quality to them and their heirs and assigns forever, and if they cannot agree to divide the said Land each shall choose six good substantial freeholders to assist them that no uneasyness may arise between my said Son James and Moses, and that each shall release to his Other to to their Respective heirs and assigns, I give and bequeath to my sone John Winder the sum of Ten Pounds to him and his heirs and assigns forever, I give and bequeath unto my son Aaron Winder the sum of Fifty Pounds to him and his heirs and assigns forever which I have ordered my son Thomas Winder to pay unto him when he arrives to the age of twenty one years with the interest from my death. I give and bequeath to my daughter Elizabeth Linton the sum of five pounds, to her and her heirs and assigns forever, which sum of five pounds with what I have allready given her is intended to be her part of my Estate, I give and bequeath to my daughter Sarah Whitacre the sum of five pounds, to her and her heirs and assigns forever, which sum of five pounds with what I have allredy given her is intended to be her part of my Estate, I give and bequeath to my daughter Hannah Brooks the sum of five pounds to her and her heirs and assigns forever, I give and bequeath to my daughter Rebeccah Winder the sum of twenty pounds to her and her heirs and assigns forever, I give and bequeath to my daughter Mary Winder the sum of twenty pounds to her and her heirs and assigns forever, I give and bequeath to my daughter Ann the sum of twenty pounds to her and her heirs and assigns forever, It is my will and desire that the above Legacys given to my Daughters shall be paid them as soon as money can be raised, out of my personal estate by my Executrix and Executor, I do hereby nominate and appoint by dear and well beloved wife Rebeccah Winder to be Executrix and my son John Winder Executor to his my last will and testament, hereby revoking and disavowing all former wills by me made, in testimony whereof I do acknowledge this to be my last will and testament in the presence of the subscribing witnesses this sixth day of August one thousand seven hundred and seventy. Signed, sealed and acknowledged to be my last will and testament in the presence of Jane Slack, John Chapman, Wm Yeardley /signed/ John Winder

      September the 5th, 1770. Then personally appeared Wm Yeardley, Jane Slack and John Chapman, who upon their solemn oaths and affirmation effectively did declare and say that they subscribed their names to this witness (etc etc)

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    Death 9 Aug 1770  Lower Makefield, Bucks, Pennsylvania, USA Find all individuals with events at this location  [4, 5
    Probate 5 Sep 1770  , Bucks, Pennsylvania, USA Find all individuals with events at this location  [6
    Residence Lower Makefield, Bucks, Pennsylvania, USA Find all individuals with events at this location  [4
    _UID B8858E925AF14AD8B245F069AB4E3B0A58BE 
    Person ID I13898  WinderWonderland
    Last Modified 9 May 2014 

    Father Thomas WINDER,   b. Abt 1680   d. 23 May 1734, Amwell, Hunterdon, New Jersey, USA Find all individuals with events at this location (Age 54 years) 
    Mother Sarah BULL,   b. Abt 1685   d. Bef 1 Apr 1731, Amwell, Hunterdon, New Jersey, USA Find all individuals with events at this location (Age 46 years) 
    Marriage 5 Jun 1704  , London, London , England Find all individuals with events at this location  [7
    • Westminster, St. Mary's
    Saint Margaret's Church
    St. Margaret's Church
    Marriage 5 Jun 1704  , London, London, England Find all individuals with events at this location 
    St. Margaret's Church 
    Family ID F154  Group Sheet  |  Family Chart

    Family Rebecca RICHARDS,   b. 19 Sep 1714   d. 19 Jan 1788, Lower Makefield, Bucks, Pennsylvania, USA Find all individuals with events at this location (Age 73 years) 
    Marriage 1732  , , Pennsylvania, USA Find all individuals with events at this location 
    Children 
     1. Thomas WINDER,   b. 25 Feb 1733, Lower Makefield, Bucks, Pennsylvania, USA Find all individuals with events at this locationd. 16 Dec 1785, Lower Makefield, Bucks, Pennsylvania, USA Find all individuals with events at this location (Age 52 years)
     2. James WINDER,   b. 24 Nov 1735   d. 21 Jan 1804, , Bucks, Pennsylvania, USA Find all individuals with events at this location (Age 68 years)
     3. John R WINDER,   b. 22 Sep 1736, Fallsman, Bucks, Pennsylvania, USA Find all individuals with events at this locationd. 5 Apr 1819, Dry Run, Ross, Ohio, USA Find all individuals with events at this location (Age 82 years)
     4. Elizabeth WINDER,   b. 4 Aug 1738   d. Yes, date unknown
     5. Sarah WINDER,   b. 18 Aug 1740   d. 8 May 1811 (Age 70 years)
     6. Hannah WINDER,   b. 23 Oct 1742   d. Yes, date unknown
     7. Moses WINDER,   b. 19 Nov 1745, , Bucks, Pennsylvania, USA Find all individuals with events at this locationd. Aft 1783, , , Ontario, Canada Find all individuals with events at this location (Age 38 years)
     8. Aaron WINDER,   b. 3 Oct 1747   d. Yes, date unknown
     9. Rachel WINDER,   b. 12 Feb 1750   d. Yes, date unknown
     10. Rebecca WINDER,   b. 13 Jan 1751, Lower Makefield, Bucks, Pennsylvania, USA Find all individuals with events at this locationd. Eldred, Lycoming, Pennsylvania, USA Find all individuals with events at this location
     11. Mercy WINDER,   b. 18 Jan 1753   d. Between 1770 and 1788 (Age 16 years)
     12. Ann WINDER,   b. 14 Sep 1756, Lower Makefield, Bucks, Pennsylvania, USA Find all individuals with events at this locationd. 30 Aug 1824 (Age 67 years)
     13. Aaron WINDER,   b. 14 Sep 1759   d. 2 Jul 1824, , Bucks, Pennsylvania, USA Find all individuals with events at this location (Age 64 years)
    Family ID F4857  Group Sheet  |  Family Chart
    Last Modified 7 Mar 2006 

  • Notes 
    • According to Winders of America:
      Deeds of lease and release from Thomas Winder, Sr., to John Winder, bearing date December 18 and 19, 1732, for the tract of three hundred and forty-one acres in Makefield township, Bucks County, Pennsylvania, which the father had purchased in 1727 at sheriff's sale, made out in due form, but never signed, are still in existence. On this plantation John Winder probably settled at the time of his marriage, and here he continued to live until his death.

      ...Benjamin Palmer and John Winder made acknowledgment to the Meeting, Second month 6, 1760, for wrong-doing in "contributing towards the getting of carriages to go on the last expedition to the Westward." John Winder again offended in like manner, for Makefield Meeting reported, Fourth month 4, 1764, to the Monthly Meeting at Falls, that William Yeardley and John Winder "had been concerned in carrying soldiers and their effects."

      According to Robert L. Winder (Sep 2000):
      John Winder, born in 1707, settled on the land purchased by his father in Lower Makefield Township. Deeds from his father's other heirs conveyed their interest in this land to John over a period from 1736 to 1762, although the deeds were not recorded in Bucks County until 1791. His wife, Rebecca Richards, was born 19 Sep 1714, but the date of their marriage has not been found. The names of Rebecca's parents are unknown. Both John and Rebecca Winder requested membership in the Falls Meeting of the Friends Society, and were duly admitted, John on 1 May 1747 and Rebecca a month later. It appears that they spent their entire lives in Lower Makefield Township. In his will John Winder described himself as a "yeoman", and made bequests to his "Dear and well-beloved wife Rebeccah Winder", to his sons Thomas Winder, Aaron Winder, James Winder, Moses Winder, and John Winder, and to his daughters Elizabeth Linton, Sarah Whitacre, Hannah Brooks, Rebeccah Winder, Mercy Winder, and Ann Winder. His will was witnessed by Jane Slack (presumed to be his sister Jane), John Chapman, and Wm. Yeardley. The will named his wife, Rebecca Winder, and his son, John, as executors of his will. Rebecca Winder wrote her will 11 January 1788, leaving small bequests to Moses Winder, Hannah Brooks, John Winder, James Winder, Sarah Whitacre, Rebecca Nutt, Elizabeth Linton, and Ann Knight, with the remainder of her estate going to son Aaron Winder. From these two wills it appears that Elizabeth Winder Linton and Hannah Winder Brooks were married prior to 1770, that Rebecca Winder Nutt and Ann Winder Knight were married between 1770 and 1788, and that Mercy Winder died between 1770 and 1788. Fourteen children are known to have been born to John and Rebecca Richards Winder, but two died young, and Mercy Winder, the twelfth child, seems to have died unmarried prior to 1788.
      ...
      John Winder (John 2, Thomas 1) lived in Bucks County, PA until the close of the Revolutionary War. He was married to Margaret Briggs on 23 January 1760 and was probably the "John Winder, married man" reported in 1775 as a "non-associator" in Bucks County, which meant that he did not support the Revolution. In 1783, John, Margaret and their children moved to Chester County, PA, as recorded in Quaker records. From there they moved, on certificate from Kennett Square Meeting, to the Redstone Settlement on the Mononghahela River in 1796. Their eldest children, James and Hannah, had preceded the rest of the family in the move to southwestern Pennsylvania. In 1797 John Winder, his wife Margaret, and their children, with the exception of James, again moved westward, going into the Northwest Territory to the vicinity of present-day Chillicothe, Ohio, in the Scioto Valley, as founding members of a new Quaker settlement.

      Gershom Perdue's Memoranda of Early Settlements of Friends in the Northwest Territory states :
      On the 8th day of Fifth Month… 1797, John Winder, Margaret his wife, and three single children (Abner, Mercy, and Elizabeth), and son James and his wife Deborah Winder, and sons-in -law, Isaac Warner and wife Mary, and their daughter Lydia, and William Chandler and his wife Hannah, and Levi Warner (afterwards son-in-law to John Winder) from Westland, PA, settled at High Bank, on the east side of the Scioto River, near the end of the railroad bridge, four miles below where Chillicothe now is… I will here, in order of time, say that John Warner, son of Isaac and Mary Warner, was born at High Bank, Ross County, Ohio, on the 12th day of Seventh Month, 1789. The first birth of a member of the Society of Friends northwest of the Ohio River, and that on the 11th of the Eleventh Month the same year, 1798, Rebecca Chandler, daughter of William and Hannah Chandler, was born at or near the same place, both grandchildren of John and Margaret Winder. I presume they are both living - the latter the wife of Alexander Bell of Iowa and an elder in the Church… About the year 1802, John Winder, with most of his children and their families, moved west of the Scioto and settled on Dry Run, some six miles above Chillicothe, where they, with some friendly neighbors (several of whom afterward joined in religious fellowship with Friends) opened a meeting for worship which in due time was noticed on record, and continued until 1828.

      Rather curiously, considering his record as a firm Friend, this John Winder is to be found on the D. A. R. rolls as a Patriot in the Revolutionary Army. A descendant, when queried by the compiler about this claim of Revolutionary service for John Winder, stated that it was based on the publication, in the Pennsylvania Archives, of the record of a John Winder having served as a private, enlisting in York County, PA. The Pennsylvania Archives record was then checked. A John Winder did indeed serve as a private in the "German Company" from York County, PA. The record further shows, however, that this John Winder, from York County, had died by the time "depreciation payments" were allowed in the 1780's, and that his widow, named Anne, still lived in York County at that time. As we know that "our" John Winder lived in Bucks County until 1783, then moved from the Kennett Square Meeting in Chester County to the Redstone Meeting, there is no basis for his being considered as having served in the Revolutionary Army in a company that was recruited in York County, PA. Nor was his wife named Anne, as was the widow of the soldier from York County. This listing of John Winder (1736-1819) as a Revolutionary War "Patriot" seems to be simply a case of erroneous identification of an ancestor as one who served in the Revolutionary forces. It seems in any case, that John Winder and his wife Margaret must rank with the earliest settlers of the old Northwest Territory. Their party of Friends probably reached their original destination of High Bank, just south of Chillicothe, by rafting down the Mononghahela and Ohio Rivers to the mouth of the Scioto, and then proceeding overland up the Scioto valley. It should be noted that an 1880's History of Ross and Highland Counties (Ohio) states that the James Winder who supposedly was in the original party of Quaker settlers was the brother of John Winder. Actually, this James Winder was the son of John Winder, the Ohio Quaker Pioneer. As James Winder was married to Deborah Allen in March 1799 in Westlands Meeting, which was located in Pennsylvania, it seems questionable that James was actually a member of the original party of settlers in 1797.

      John Winder (1736-1819), wrote his will 22 February 1819, to which the witnesses were William Warner, Benjamin Hough, and Samuel Ellis. A codicil, primarily concerning the disposal of personal property, was added to the will on 27 February, and this codicil was witnessed by Benjamin Hough, John Sturgeon, and Samuel Ellis. Letters testamentary on the estate of John Winder were issued 20 April 1819 to Levi Warner (son-in-law) and Abner Winder, son of the deceased. As John Winder's wife had preceded him in death, and as his children were grown to maturity, his will made bequests primarily to his grandchildren, with the exception of land left to his son Abner. There were eight known children who reached maturity born to John Winder and Margaret Briggs Winder, and there is some indication that a son, Edward, born ca. 1765, died prior to 1793. [8, 9]

  • Sources 
    1. [S85] Karen Ramsey, (FamilyOrigins on Ancestry.com).

    2. [S86] Church of Latter Day Saints, Ancestral File, (Familysearch.com).

    3. [S88] The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, International Genealogical Index.

    4. [S97] Robert L. Winder, (Letters and email exchanged 1997-present), Pg. 2 (Reliability: 3).

    5. [S60] Robert Winder Johnson, Winders of America, (Lippincott Co, Philadelphia, 1902), pg. 60 (Reliability: 3).

    6. [S60] Robert Winder Johnson, Winders of America, (Lippincott Co, Philadelphia, 1902), pg. 65 (Reliability: 3).
      Bucks County Wills, Book I, pg. 215

    7. [S97] Robert L. Winder, (Letters and email exchanged 1997-present).

    8. [S60] Robert Winder Johnson, Winders of America, (Lippincott Co, Philadelphia, 1902), pg. 60-61 (Reliability: 3).

    9. [S60] Robert Winder Johnson, Winders of America, (Lippincott Co, Philadelphia, 1902), pg. 62-64 (Reliability: 3).


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