Winder Wonderland DNA Project
Researching the genealogy of the Winder/Winders/Wynder/etc families.
John WINDER
1817 - 1904 (87 years)-
Name John WINDER Birth 1817 , , Ohio, USA 
Gender Male Census 1860 Richland, Greene, Indiana, USA federal cemetery May 1904 Tecumseh, Vigo, Indiana, USA Shepherd Cemetery 
es/Tombstones/winder-john and harriet cole tombstone.jpg Name John WINDOWS Name John WINTERS _UID F5857548F85741B2B37CCDA851CE7CC179CB Death 25 May 1904 Person ID I16941 WinderWonderland Last Modified 3 Jun 2014
Father James WINDERS, b. Abt 1785, , , Pennsylvania, USA d. 1840, , , Ohio, USA (Age 55 years) Mother Lucinda TAYLOR, b. 1800, , , New York, USA d. Yes, date unknown Family ID F72 Group Sheet | Family Chart
Family 1 Harriet COLE, b. Jun 1844, , , Indiana, USA d. 24 Jan 1904 (Age 59 years) Marriage 6 Apr 1870 Children 1. James D WINTERS, b. Feb 1871, , Vigo, Indiana, USA d. 10 Aug 1918, , Clinton, Indiana, USA (Age 47 years)2. Perley J WINTERS, b. Feb 1871, , Vigo, Indiana, USA d. 21 Oct 1903, , Vigo, Indiana, USA (Age 32 years)3. Emma Alice WINTERS, b. Apr 1872, New Goshen, Vigo, Indiana, USA d. 3 Jan 1950, Youngstown, Vigo, Indiana, USA (Age 77 years)4. George H WINTERS, b. 12 Dec 1873, , Vigo, Indiana, USA d. 6 Dec 1956, Terre Haute, Vigo, Indiana, USA (Age 82 years)5. Charles Asbury WINDER, b. 1 Aug 1878, , Vigo, Indiana, USA d. Feb 1950 (Age 71 years)6. Marla Amanda WINTERS, b. Feb 1880, , Vigo, Indiana, USA d. Yes, date unknown7. Daisy C WINTERS, b. Mar 1882, , Vigo, Indiana, USA d. 25 Oct 1948, Kingman, Fountain, Indiana, USA (Age 66 years)Family ID F9175 Group Sheet | Family Chart Last Modified 2 Jun 2014
Family 2 Arabella RILEY, b. Between 1823 and 1825, Pike, Coshocton, Ohio, USA d. Yes, date unknown Marriage 3 Oct 1841 Fallsburg, Licking, Ohio, USA Children 1. Peter WINTERS, b. Abt 1845, , , Illinois, USA d. Yes, date unknown2. Mary Elizabeth WINDER, b. May 1847, , , Indiana, USA d. 20 Feb 1908 (Age 60 years)3. Elizabeth WINTERS, b. Abt 1850, , , Indiana, USA d. Yes, date unknown4. Eliza WINTERS, b. Abt 1852, , , Indiana, USA d. Yes, date unknown5. Sarah Freelove WINTERS, b. 10 Oct 1857, , Greene, Indiana, USA d. 23 Nov 1928, Ferguson Hill, Vigo, Indiana, USA (Age 71 years)Family ID F9313 Group Sheet | Family Chart Last Modified 2 Jun 2014
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Event Map 
Marriage - 3 Oct 1841 - Fallsburg, Licking, Ohio, USA 
cemetery - Shepherd Cemetery - May 1904 - Tecumseh, Vigo, Indiana, USA = Link to Google Earth
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Photos John Winder
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Notes - (Research): From: bill07tkn@aim.com
Sent: Friday, March 28, 2014 1:50 PM
I would appreciate any information you may have on John Winder/Winters (16941/26800) connection to James Winders (111).
What I have from Ruth is that John's (16941) daughter Mary's (23249) husband Johnathan Ward, was named guardian for James M Winder(s)' (23198) children. He was the son of Joshua Winder (11022) the son of James (111) and Lucy. Per Civil War papers on James M, Johnathan Ward gave a statement that Mary was a cousin to James M (that would be her first cousin).
Also a John Winders/Winters gave a statement about Joshua Winders for his Civil War pension, stating he had known Joshua before Joshua had married his first wife Elizabeth Glass (m 1843).
John was also in a court case with Henderson Winder and John Winder vs Severs and Buxton in Fallsbury Twp, Licking Co OH around 1847. John's first wife, Arabella Riley's apparent family was from there and John and Arabella were probably married there.
Although these facts are not definitive proof of their sibling relationship, I am as confident as possible without a baptism or birth record.
The 1880 Fayette twp, Vigo Co, IN census shows my John Winters (16941) lived in dwelling 90; Johnathan Ward dwelling 96 and Joshua Winters (11022) dwelling 100.
The John's (26800 + 16941) are tied together as one person via a photo that Sara F. (Freelove's) (23252) grandson had that showed what was termed his great grandfather John with his second wife (Harriet) along with Sara (23252) and Mary (23249). It is the same photo that I was given, though cropped, by John and Harriet's granddaughter showing her grandparents.
Finally, I updated Ruth on the John Winder/Winters family last fall.
Briefly, John's (16941) second marriage to Harriet "Retherford" (06 Apl 1870) used his Winder name and it later morphed to Winters. What is interesting to note is that Charles Winder (25972) is the only one of his six children that lived to maturity from his second marriage that used the Winder name. My understanding is that he found out what the name used to be and he changed back or kept it. As he apparently was somewhat into his family history, perhaps he used the "White" name for Harriet's maiden name because he heard the name as being a family name. (Chancy White (8433)). Of the four other children that married, only my great grandmother got it right \endash Harriet Cole (Rutherford was Harriet's married name).
Winder Wonderland has added John as a son of James Winders and Lucinda Taylor because of the work of Bill Taken, great great grandson of John:
From: bill07tkn@aim.com
CC: jmlwinder@gmail.com; annwinder@outlook.com
Date: Sun, 1 Jun 2014
Here are the connections, or "hooks", of John Winder to James Winders that give me confidence that he is his son.
John Winder was born in Ohio about 1817 based on his gravestone.
The 1820 census for Perry Twp, Licking Co, OH for James Winders and, I believe Lucinda, reflects 3 males under 10. The ages of Henderson, Thomas and John fit these males.
A 1999 e-mail from Bill Johns to Deven, stated in part: "a West Carlisle Ledger from Brown and Seevers General Store, 1837 through 1840 was published in the Kinsman Courier, the quarterly publication of the Coshocton County, Ohio Genealogical Society, Volume V, Number 3, 1982, page 65-68. Among those patrons listed are: Winder, Henderson; Winder, James; Winders, John; Winders, Thomas and several Taylor names."
He married his first wife Arabella Riley 01 Oct 1841 in Licking Co, OH \endash officiating was JG Boughman. This was most probably in Fallsburg Twp, Licking Co as Arabella's family probably lived there as her parents are buried in Fallsburg Cemetery.
Per an e-mail from Ruth Boyles: "In Joshua's (Civil War) pension file, John Winters gave a statement that he had known Joshua before Joshua had married his first wife Eliza Glass. This was for Joshua's second wife to get his pension after he had died." Joshua's first marriage was no later than 1844 \endash the year of the birth of Joshua's first known son, James M.
One of Henderson's children was named Arabella (b1844); not a too common name so may have been named after John's wife.
In another Bill Johns memo he stated: "copies of records of the Justice of the Peace Docket for Fallsbury Township from 26 Nov., 1845 to 06 Dec., 1847 and found several mentions of H. and Henderson Winder(s). One of these records is a suit of Severs & Buxton vs. John Winder and Henderson Winder."
Per a Ruth Boyles e-mail, Joshua's son James M had made Jon Ward guardian of his children to get his Civil War pension when he died. James M. Winders' pension file has a statement by Jonathan Ward that his wife Mary is cousin of James M. Winders. Mary is John Winder and Arabella Riley's daughter.
I personally reviewed Alpheus Winder's Civil War pension papers. Included in that document is a sworn statement from Jonathan Ward: "My wife (Mary) is a first cousin to these claimants" referring to Alpheus' children.
John's gravestone is about 20 feet from his brother Joshua's gravestone in Shepherd Cemetery, Vigo Co, IN.
Regards
Bill
- (Research): From: bill07tkn@aim.com