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- (Research):Note by Johnny Walker:
In the marriage records of Tennessee, transcribed by Byron Sistler, the marriage of Andrew J. Winders and Rachel Eliza Carsley is listed as Andrew J. McClolpin? to Rachel Eliza Cuisty? on 3 Sep 1849 in Montgomery Co., Tennessee. In spite of the difficulty reading the name in the Sistler index, it is obvious that on the marriage record Andrew was using the surname McColpin while in the 1850 census he appears with the surname Winders.
From: Karen Ricks
Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2007 1:56 PM
Dear Ann,
I contacted you a few weeks ago about Andrew Winders and Rachel Eliza Carsley. I have since done some research in Salt Lake at the Genealogy Library there. I found the original marriage entry that Johnny Walker is referring to and it does indeed say Andrew McColpin and Rachel Eliza Carsley. The Carsley is a little difficult to read so I can see where Byron Sistler could have read it wrong since he had so much to transcribe and was not familiar with this particular name.
The film number that contains the original doc at the Family History Library is #0321021, Tennessee Marriages. I was glad to find the original and be able to document Mr. Walker's theory.
In 1860 living next to Allen H. and Margaret Winders. Also in household is Asbury Winder, age 18, b. IN.
In 1880, also in household is M. D. Ricker, niece, age 2, b. MO
- As for Andrew Jackson Winders...I believe Tabitha's Andrew died circa 1850-1854. Andrew married a girl named Rachel Eliza Carsley in September of 1849. That marriage record shows that Andrew used the last name "McColpin" when he got married, which helps to support the theory that Samuel McColpin was his biological father. Andrew and Rachel had one child together, Frances Catherine Winders, in October of 1850. That Andrew and his wife, Rachel are both living with Tabitha in Todd County KY in the 1850 census. However in 1854, Rachel Winders remarries, to a man named Matthew Harris in Todd County, KY, and she is listed as Widowed on that document. So Tabitha's Andrew died between 1850 and 1854.
MY Andrew Jackson Winders, however is alive and well in 1860 and living in Missouri, by then married to Delila Nestleroad, and his daughter, Lavina is living with them. Unfortunately, I have yet to find my Andrew on an 1850 census, so who knows where he was at that time. His father, as best as my mother was able to determine (and I concur), was Alexander Winders, born 17 FEB 1789 in Maryland. Alexander's first wife is a mystery, but they had several children together, including Andrew, Allen H, Charlotte, and George W, and possibly others. They were all born before Alexander married a Nancy Morrical in 1833 in Henry County, Indiana. George W., Andrew, Charlotte and Allen are mentioned as heirs of Alexander Winders in the Henry County Deed Books for 1857 and 1858. The land was sold to a Livezy. The Cemetery is southwest of where Alexander's property was. Allen and George are also living close to their father, Alexander in Henry County, Indiana in 1850 on the census. I've looked through that census multiple times and haven't found Andrew. But since Lavina was possibly born in Illinois (according to her Obituary and her DC), it's possible that Andrew was in Illinois during that period. And considering that five of Andrew's sons were born in Illinois, it seems likely that Lavina was born there as well and that there is some connection for Andrew to Illinois. I just haven't found what that is yet. I'm thinking that possibly Andrew's mother was from Illinois, and perhaps she had family there. That's just a guess at this point, but plausible considering how many of his children were born in Illinois. [5]
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