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«/b»Shortly after 1860 Lafayette Winders with family migrated with his sister's family John Ross and Rebecca Jane to Iowa where Lafayette joined the Union army on August 1, 1862. He enlisted as Sargeant at age 39. He was soon promoted to full Sargeant 3rd Class in Company H, 36th Iowa Regiment. All his tour of duty was guarding railroads, etc, and he was sent to Arkansas in a camp as a guard. I do not know if it was a prisoner camp. On August 24, 1865 Lafayette Winders was mustered out at Devall's Bluff, Arkansas (this is northern Arkansas near Little Rock).
LaFayette had not been favorably impressed with Iowa and evidently did not care for farming. He cannot be found in 1870 Census, nor his family. From his children, Henry was born in Iowa in 1868 so Lafayette came back from the war to Iowa. Daughter Helline, who was never in a Census, was apparently born in Pennsylvania in 1872. So after 1868 and 1872 Lafayette and family traveled across Kansas where Hiram left them to work and marry. By 1880 Helline was dead. They arrived in Jack County, Texas about 1878-1879.
He went to a hospital for disabled vets in Leavenworth, Kansas. He was probably sick. He died there.
All the Winders from this line were wonderers--Lafayette. They lived in or near cities/towns and were skilled workmen. They could all read and write. Their living conditions were just above poverty. All their trips back and forth were by foot and wagon with oxen, sometimes owning horses but horses were for trade. They had a few prized possessions that were carried with them packed in heavy trunks. They were a boisterous lot, playing tricks on each other, finding jokes, dreaming dreams, laughing.
All the Winders went together and hired a lawyer to go to England to find the royal land in London which was theirs by inheritance. At one time Maggie Mae possessed all the papers which proved their line back to rich English businesses men The lawyer took the papers and money, and they never heard from him again. Whether this tale, handed down from generation to generation was true or not, I am not for sure, or whether this was just another tale to laugh about. My mother Ann believed it until she died.
COMMENTS to the above from two respondents:
1) Lafayette was a hard working man. It was not that Iowa was not his cup of tea as much as he answered the call as many did: to serve his country in the War. He was seriously ill during the CW and it left him unable to work a full day and he suffered the rest of his life. He returned to his family and they continued to live in Iowa moving from Wapello County to Lucas County at one point. Julianna was an attentive and compassionate wife and caretaker. Over the years caring for Laff, she learned homeopathic remedies to help treat him. Julianna died in Montgomery County, Kansas in late 1884 or early 1885. After which time, Laff entered the Home for Veterans in Leavenworth, KS in Sep 1885 and was discharged in Mar 1887. Laff died in Independence, Kansas 22 Dec 1889. He was buried at Mt Hope Cemetery, Independence KS. Lafayette was not the son of Samuel and Margaret Burnside WINDERS. He was the son of Samuel and Catherine (Jackaway) WINDERS. His sister Sarah was born between 1822 and 1825 and therefore, does not align with the Sarah/Sally represented in the Samuel and Margaret WINDERS family. Further, Laff had an older brother. Fascinating family to study. regards.
2) Lafayette was not a farmer as most men were in his time. In 1860 he tried out as coal miner. About 1861 Lafayette and his family left for Iowa with his sister's family, Rebecca Jane Ross and John Ross. By 1862 Iowa was not his cup of tea either, so he joined the Union Army, leaving his family in Iowa. He came to like the south after being stationed in Arkansas. He mustered out in 1865 and returned to Iowa to collect his family. Henry was born in Iowa in 1868. They then journeyed back to Pennsylvania where daughter Helline was born in 1872. Then the family traveled to Jack Co, Texas. Helline died before reaching Texas, and wife Julianna died before 1885. By 1900 Senior Lafayette was dead, but all three boys, Robert, Hiram, Lafayette (Lafe) were in Mineral Wells, Texas.
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«/b»Note: The 1860 Western PA Census shows Winders to be a coal miner. It also shows he was living in Washington Twp, Fayette Co. The 1850 Census of PA show him to be a laborer living in Springfield Twp, Fayette Co. The 1880 Census of TX (Jack Co.) show him to be a stone mason.
Father: Samuel WINDERS b: 7 AUG 1802 in KY
Mother: Margaret BURNSIDE b: 1806
Marriage 1 Julianna WILLIAMS b: 1828 in PA
Married: BEF 1852 in PA
Children
Hiram McCoy WINDERS b: 13 SEP 1853 in KS or PA
Samuel M WINDERS b: 1850 in PA
Robert WINDERS b: 1854 in PA
Lafayette WINDERS b: 1858 in PA
Margaret WINDERS b: 1858 in PA
Henry WINDERS b: 1868 in KS
Helline WINDERS b: 1872 in PA
Census 1850, Springfield, Fayette, PA--
Martin Williams 72 1777 farmer 1000 PA,
Abraham 27,
Mary Jane Williams 20,
Lafayette Winder 24 1825 labor PA,
Juliana 22 1827 PA,
Samuel M 8/12,
next dooe to John Williams 37 labor PA (all were working same land),
Elizabeth 39 PA,
Jane 18,
Mary 16,
Julianna 14,
Elizabeth 12,
William 9,
John 7, all born PA
1860 Census, Washington, Fayette, PA--
Lafayette Winders 35 1824 coal miner no value,
Ann 32 1827,
Robert 8,
Hiram 6,
Lafayette 4,
Margaret 2, all born PA
By 1900 Lafayette was dead, along with Julianna Williams Winders, along with Henry who has not been found again in a census.
By 1900 three of his boys are living in Mineral Well, Palo Pinto Co, Texas
All live in ED 124 but different pages
D L Winders (Lafayette) June 1856 43 PA stonecutter,
wife M E Dec 1855 44 TN,
son W L Dec 1881 18 TX
H M Winders (Hiram McCoy) Sep 1853 46 PA harness-maker,
wife Mary Nov 1858 41 MO,
son Harry Jan 1877 23 KS clerk,
dau Mattie (Maggie) Nov 1879 22 KS,
son Jasper Nov 1882 17 KS,
son Thomas Feb 1887 13 KS,
son Lafayette Apr 1899 11 KS,
dau Myrtle Sep 1897 2 TX.
R J Winders (Robert) Sep 1851 48 PA engineer stone mason,
wife Lee? (looks like Lu) Mar 1860 39 MO
For sure both Hiram McCoy Winders and Mary Belle Debruler Winders died between 1900-1910 with Mary going first. I have not found Lafayette from PA in the Census again.
In 1920 Census Robert Winders 68 PA cook construction living with Arthur McQuery 24 TX labor construction appears in Precinct 1, Palo Pinto Co, TX.
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Abt 1825 - 1889 (~ 64 years)
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