Notes |
- For an extensive biography of Robert Jackaway Winders see «a href="http://homepages.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~annieron/Winder/Library/RJWinders.htm"»History of Robert Jackaway Winders«/a» by Deven Winders Lewis, co-administrator of the Winder Surname project.
For an amazing webpage describing Robert Jackaway Winders, see «a href="http://hometownbyhandlebar.com/?p=8446"»Hometown by Handlebar«/a».
- (Research):1880 census says father born MD, mother born PA.
From: Deven Lewis deven00@charter.net
Date: 05/22/05 13:34:55
My Dad is crazy about Wyatt Earp history and gave me a book to read. Low and behold, the Earps had a partner named Robert Jackaway Winders, born in PA in 1822; father was born in Maryland (according to the 1880 census for R.J. Winders, Pima County, AZ). According to the tax records of Tombstone, AZ from 1881, the Earp Brothers, including Wyatt, had a partner in various properties with R. J. Winders (identified in the book by Wyatt Earp's wife as "Robert Jackaway Winders.") Winders and the Earps also were partners in a number of Arizona mines. An article about Tombstone states that Wyatt's brother, James, had been a bartender for "Uncle Bob Winders" in Fort Worth: "The Daily Epitaph on October 20, 1880, stated that John Tyler was running a faro game at Danner & Owens Hall, situated across the street from the Oriental, and the Daily Nugget of October 22 identified the owners of the gambling tables at Danner & Owens as Charlie Smith and Robert J. Winders. These two were certainly in competition with Rickabaugh, et al., but Smith and Winders were also close friends of the Earps and Holliday. James Earp had tended bar for "Uncle Bob" Winders in Fort Worth during the late 1870s, and Winders himself was a partner of the Earp brothers in several mining ventures." (Quote from «a href="http://www.historynet.com/the-gamblers-war-in-tombstone.htm"»"The Gambler's War in Tombstone"«/a», Wild West Magazine)
I'm just wondering if this Winders might be a descendant of the Thomas Winder-Sarah Bull line. Thought it was interesting.
Deven
For an interesting article about Robert Jackaways Winder and friends, and the source of much of our information about him, see «a href="../MiningKenoandtheLaw.htm"»Mining, Keno and the Law«/a» by Robert Palmquist.
Letters to the Editor, Professional Surveyor Magazine
When I read the article about Wyatt Earp by Don Kaufman and Nan Belknap in the June 2004 issue, my memory was tweaked. Many years ago, a fellow surveyor practicing in the southern part of Arizona distributed a copy of the survey notes of the "Northern Extension of the Mountain Maid" mining claim, at a survey workshop. It took some digging, but I found the notes buried in my reference library.
The notes are quite interesting in that V.W. Earp, W. S. Earp, and J.C. Earp, along with R.J. Winders, are listed as owners of the claim, which is on the west edge of Tombstone, Arizona Territory. Further reading in the documents recorded along with the field notes reveal the "affidavit of five hundred dollars improvements" which is signed by J.H. Holliday and George Wiley.
Page 4 (below left) lists the survey crew, Wyatt Earp is the flagman and R.J. Winders one of the chainmen. In my research of this type of survey in the west, I have noted that utilizing one or more of the claimant owners as members of the survey crew is not unusual, and is a common practice found in mineral surveys as well as homestead entry surveys.
The last page (above) is the "oath of assistant," flagman, signed by Wyatt Earp. All of the handwriting, even the signatures, appears to be by the same person, but I am no expert on handwriting.
Thanks for the always interesting articles.
Dennis L. Gaylord, PLS
Pendleton, OR
From: R L Winder rlwind1@nmax.net
Date: 05/24/05 06:43:11
[snip] The mention of Robert Jackaway Winder, and your thoughtful mention of Jackaway in Fayette County, PA, finally reminded me that I had a whole lot of notes from Fayette Co., PA still hanging around here - and finally justified by being able to come up with a couple of scraps of information from them.
First, this, from my typescript (undated!) on /*Winder Family Members in Fayette County, Pennsylvania*/: Ellis' history also mentions a Samuel Winder, an innkeeper, who came into Uniontown and appears on the tax list of the borough in 1824. Orphans' Court Records, Book 3, for the September term of 1836, show a petition by Robert L. Winder, "a minor above the age of 14 years, son of Samuel Winder, late of Uniontown", praying for the appointment of John Winder as his guardian, which was granted by the court.
A John Winder is also reported by Ellis as a charter member of the "Union Volunteers", formed 23 August 1823 - probably a militia group. - Ed. - I still remember my amazement at finding this Robert L. Winder in this record!
Secondly: I have a note that reads as rollows: "Bk. Y, p.477, Fayette Co., PA, deeds, records the *sale by* Samuel Winder and Catherine Winder, his wife of Menallen Township, for $100 *to* John Grable *all title, interest and claim on the estate of Robert Jackaway, dec'd.* (except for 1 cow, 6 sheep, and household and kitchen furniture. (Catherine a daughter of Robert Jackaway?)"
Now, though, the disappointing bit of all this - I don't have any clue as to the family connections of this Samuel Winder who showed up in Uniontown in 1824. It looks to me as if there is nothing in my notes to rule out this Robert Jackaway Winders, parttner of Wyatt Earp, as being a son of Samuel and Catherine Winder, and even I thought, back in 1983 or so, that Samuel Winder may well have had a wife whose maiden name was Jackaway. So if I had the time and energy, I should run out to Uniontown and start looking for the estate records for Robert Jackaway, maybe a will - something to show that one of his heirs was his daughter, Catherine Winder! And possibly a mention of a grandson named Robert Jackaway Winder. Yep, I know, Winders is always a possibility!
[snip]Bob Winder
From: Peter Brand brando@bigpond.com.au
Sent: Friday, September 16, 2005 6:37 AM
Dear Ann,
I have been researching the Winders family of Tombstone for an article I hope to write about Wyatt Earp and his friends. I thought you might be interested in some other findings and slight corrections.
Robert Jackways Winders and his wife only had two children together. They were Robert J Winders Jnr. born in Tombstone, AZ in 1880 and Thomas W. Winders born in Texas in 1878. This Thomas graduated from the Fort Worth, TX University as a doctor and died tragically in Tombstone in 1909. His death was most mysterious and the death certificate and the newspaper articles differ greatly.
Robert Jnr was not well liked by his brother and was in trouble with the law in Cochise County. He had a bad reputation in the county. He also had several children with a Mexican girl named Anna Carpena. I think Robert Jnr, left her and the children and went down to Mexico. I have not been able to find him after Thomas' death in 1909.
Annie Carpena is the Annie Winders who married Arthur Richmond. She was not a daughter, but rather a daughter-in- law of the Winders. I believe her sons were also in trouble with the law in Texas.
[snip]Thank you Peter brand, Sydney, Australia
Sept 1836:
Winders, Samuel, Decd
On the petition of Robert J. Winders, son of Samuel Winders late of Uniontown, Deceased, setting forth that he is a minor above the age of fourteen years, and therefore praying to the court to admist. him to make choice of guardian, the petition being admitted choses and the court appoint John Winders guardian of the said minor.
|