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- 1840 Census, Fallsbury Twp, Licking Co, OH
1850 Census, Jackson Twp, Greene Co, IN
Letter from Linda Eaton: "...This is my husband's side of the family. They settled in Greene County, Indiana. It is in the southern part of the state. It looks alot like Coshocton, Ohio. Several different branches came from Coshocton. We believe our Henderson Winder was born in 1813 or 1814. He married Charity Meek on April 18, 1833...
"When Henderson died his brother we assume was the executor of his estate. I am enclosing that document..."
Will administration for Henderson Winder, 27 May 1865:
The State of Indiana, ----- County
We John Emery and Sampson Horn swear that we will honestly appraise the personal estate of Henderson Winder, deceased, which may be exhibited to us; so help us God. (signed) John Emery, Sampson Horn, appraisers: Subscribed and sworn to before me, this 27th day of May 1865 (signed) George Winder Administrator.
The State of Indiana, Greene County: I, George Winder, Administrator of the estate of Henderson Winder deceased, swear that the foregoing is a true and complete inventory of all the Personal Estate of said decedent, which has come to my knowledge; and also of the property taken by the Widow, on the 27th day of May , 1865, so help me God. (signed) George WInder Subscribed and sworn to before me, this 19th day of June 1865 (signed) John I (illegible) Clerk of the Court of Common Pleas of Greene County.
May 27th 1865 Received of George Winder the property inventoried in Henderson Winders, my late husbands estate in toto it being mine under the 300 dollar law. (signed) Charity Winder.
James and all,
I read with interest your message on the Descendants of Henderson Winder. Henderson is on the 1840 census of Fallsbury Township, Licking County, OH. The census shows the following:
Males - age 0-5=2 [1835-1840];
age 5-10=2 [1830-1835];
age 20-30=1 [1810-1820]
Females - age 0-5=1 [a835-1840];
age 20-30=1 [1810-1820]
I have often thought that Henderson may be related to my Winder(s) ancestor, Mary Winders, b: 16 September 1803 in Shenandoah County, VA, d: 24 June 1883 in Fallsbury Township, Licking County, OH married in 1820, probably Licking County, OH to George Shrake, b: 26 May 1801 in Belmont County, OH, d: 08 June 1877 in Fallsbury Township, Licking County, OH.
A James Winders, b. abt. 1785, is listed in the 1820 census of Perry Township, Licking County, OH (note: Fallsbury Twp. was formed from the northern part of Perry Twp. in 1826). The 1820 census shows the following:
Males - age 0-10=3 [1810-1820];
age 10-16=1 [1804-1810];
age 26-45=1 [1775-1794]
Females - age 0-10=1 [1810-1820];
age 16-26=1 [1794-1804]
This James Winders according to the book, "Fallsbury Township, Licking County, Ohio - The First Settlers, (1815-1830)" by Gary Finckel, 20 Nov. 1990, married Lucy Taylor, d/o John Taylor Sr. and wife, Freelove (last name unknown). John Taylor resided just north of Fallsbury Twp, Licking County, OH in Coshocton County. Lucy Winders is named as a daughter in John Taylor Sr.'s will dated 17 March, 1824 and probated 4 Nov., 1824 in Coshocton County, OH. James Winders and the John Taylor family came from Pennsylvania according to Mr. Finckel. James Winder is not in the 1830 census of Licking County but according to Mr. Finckel's book he paid personal property taxes in 1833. Mr. Finckel states that Henderson Winders is the son of this James Winders. James Winders either died in the 1830's or left the area.
If anyone can connect James Winders or Henderson Winder(s) with my ancestor Mary Winder(s), I would be most interested in the information. James, hope some of this helps with your research.
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Bill Johns,
member of Licking County (Ohio) Genealogical Society,
Chapter of the Ohio Genealogical Society
- (Research):From Bill Taken Apr 2014: I have found "hooks" for all of the children found to date of James with the exception of Thomas which you have convincingly tied to James via DNA and his marriage location.
I don't have better Henderson information but will summarize the Henderson hooks:
1) 1) We have Lucy's daughter Margaret Jane in the 01/02 Oct 1850 census of 1850 with Lucy and Chancy White shown as Jane. She also appeared with Alpheus in his 10 Sep 1850 census listed as Margaret. This plus the reference you state is in Alpheus' Civil War pension file mentions Henderson ties the three together.
2) 2) George Winder was the administrator of Henderson's will in 1865. The only other George Winder in the area would be Henderson's son but he was not yet 17 at the time so it must be the brother George Washington Winder.
3) 3) There is a Justice of the Peace Docket in Fallsbury Twp, Licking Co, 1846/47 that lists a suit with brothers John Winder and Henderson Winder on one side of the suit.
4) 4) Once again, Henderson fits into the 1820 census of James and Lucy.
I will give you my nickels worth on the whole subject of James, Lucinda and another wife for James.
I believe Lucy's birth year is 1800 not 1803.
1) 1) You have restated the issue of the census data of 1820 and 1840. This places her age at no later than 1800.
2) 2) As you know, the ages people gave can vary quite a bit and as Lucinda was married to someone a little younger, she may have fudged it a little: 1800-1801 census of 1850; 1802-1803 census of 1860; and 1802-1803 census of 1870. We also don't know who talked to the census taker.
3) 3) The will of John Taylor lists his children in order of their ages with Lucinda after Rebecca (b ~1796) and before Sarah (b 05 Sep 1801).
As stated previously, the 20 Apl 1813 marriage date noted for James and Lucinda was actually for a James and Catrine Harshman.
I don't believe we have any concrete age on Thomas \endash ~1818 census of 1850; ~1816 census of 1856; ~1814 census of 1860 so he could fall on either side of James' two marriages. In any event there appears to be a gap between Henderson (b ~1813)/ Thomas if b 1814 and John b Jun 1821. This could reflect James' first wife dying during childbirth.
As James would have had small children after his first wife's death, he very likely would have remarried within the year of his first wife's death. If Lucinda was James' second wife, as the evidence to date says to me, Henderson (b 1813) and Thomas (b 1814) would have been two of these small children when they married before the 1820 census. Henderson and Thomas would have considered Lucinda their mother.
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1813 - 1865 (52 years)
